THE WATER AND THE WOODS d
 
 
Studio: userjosh9874
 
Review Count: 72
Average Rating: 4.9 stars
Genre: Horror
Length: 26 minutes 47 seconds
 
Posted on: May 28, 2008
 
 
Film Description
Userjosh9874 and The Industry 101 workshop presents...

THE WATER AND THE WOODS

PLOT:
Young girls are disappearing in the outskirts of a small town, called Black River. Two detectives follow a lead to a hotel in the middle of the woods. When they become isolated within the sinister place due to a violent storm, suspicion begins to rise, and unimaginable horrors are around every corner. With no other options, their only hope is to confront the unknown...

Or will the unknown confront them first?

CAST (In order of appearance):

Josephkw as Detective Henry Hewitt
Perkybunny as Detective Cecilia Brown
Azuresama as Emily Richards
K4ownzall as The Innkeeper
Killer_Actress as Hope
Pixiestix as Lilith
Userjosh9874 as Hooded Figure
Pookashells as Hooded Figure
Yamimarik as Hooded Figure
OD-Ork-Boy as Hooded Figure (Uncredited)
Sisch as The Monster...

CUSTOM MODS:
Hotel lobby pieces by Eobaggs
Hooded figures by Rysto
Snow Floor by Andy_Inc

MUSIC:

I am really proud to say that this movie has a custom score! It was done by DeliriousStudios. The opening theme is Don Giovanni performed by the Fulda Symphony Orchestra (Thanks for the info, Riley!). This track is in the public domain.

A SPECIAL THANKS:

If it weren't for you guys, this movie would have been impossible. Jase180 and Anothernewdawn- these guys are awesome! They really got me into writing this thing, and poor Jase endured hours of me bothering him! Thanks for putting up with me guys! :P Thanks to these awesome modders as well! If it weren't for you, the characters would be walking around on blank sets! And then of course, there are the VA's! I had so much fun working with all of them! K4, Killer, Azure, JKW, the hooded figures, Pixie, and Perky were all PERFECT fits, I thought! I'd especially like to thanks Sisch for her awesome performance. You guys have to realize that she made up all of her lines. I told her what was happening in the film. She did all of the rest. So bravo Sisch, for interpreting my character in such a freaking awesome way! And last, but definitely not least, is DeliriousStudios! He spent a LOT of time on this musical score, and I really do appreciate it!

AWARDS:

-The Chief Award (WATW wins it's first award within 30 minutes of the release! WOW)
-The Bricksfilms award of excellency (5-28-08)
-The K4 Network Award (5-28-08)
-The Nuketastic Award (5-29-08)
-The Ellis07 Five Star Award (5-30-08)
-The Ellis07 Recommendation Award (5-30-08)
-The "Dammmmn!" award from SGporche48 (6-1-08)
-The MGM Award (6-1-08) (First recipient!!!!)
-Cecil Evan's "Way Better Than My Crap" Award (6-3-08)
-Derbyram's "Highly Recommended" Award (6-9-08)

FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) HERE BE SPOILERS! :

Here, I will try to address some questions that have been asked!

1) What was with the ending?
A) Okay, I wanted to leave things a little open. It may not make much sense at first, but that's how I wanted it. I wanted it simple, yet a tiny bit confusing. Was it all imagined? Was it real? What happened to the others? This is all intentional, as I want you to have questions in case I decide to continue the story. :) There is a possibility of a sequel- so don't feel like you've seen everything. All will be explained! Also, pay close attention to my other films- especially Chronicles of The Rift (Origins). They add some interesting insight as to what may be going on with the ritual...

PLEASE NOTE:

Okay, this film has been plagued by the dreaded sound synch bug! You may notice a scarcity of sound effects in some places, such as the absence of rain and car noises, but my computer simply could not handle it. For my future films, I'll either be splitting them into two parts, or looking for other solutions. I am truly sorry if this took away from your enjoyment of this film. Also, you may be questioning the "d" in the title. I put the "d" there to keep track of the exports and such (I didn't want to upload the badly synched one). I am positive I removed it, but it still showed up in the title anyways. Ah well. If you're going to judge this movie on the title, then just don't waste your time. :)
And I apologize for the fact that the characters mouths don't always move. I synched the lines, but for some reason they wouldn't move their mouths. I'll look into this more, but I think it has something to do with the scenes?
 
Featured Reviews
- MefuneAkira

Your best film Josh, by far.

I'm amazed at your genuinely unique film making. The third act of this film is the what makes this film stand out for me. The cinematography has a chaotic, yet controlled feel that actually achieves a visual stimulation that I can only describe as scary. THAT is completely unheard of with this medium. To actually creep a viewer out is revolutionary Josh and I applaud you for that unrepresented achievement in TMO history man.

Del's scores are heartfelt and melted into the mood perfectly.

The story itself was also a creepfest and more so, a true testament to classic horror.

Some amazing performances by Perkybunny, Pixiestix, Killer_actress, K4, Joseph and someone called Sisch, who now scares the sh!t out of me more than the clown in Poltergeist when I was 11.

There were some polishing issues, mixed with some unavoidable sound issues that did take me out of the film from time to time. The in-game sounds used, seemed to be a bit beneath the overall quality of the film. Some custom sounds would have match the rest of the high qualities of the film better.

Overall, a groundbreaking horror that has achieved where the rest have failed!

Congratulations Josh and well done man.

-Mefune Akira

Posted on June 2, 2008
- Bezzer36

Without a doubt, Josh's finest hour!

This was a horror movie in every sense.
Not easily achieved with this medium as many other movie makers here on TMO have discovered for themselves.

This has some wonderful influences, but to me, the biggest (intentional or not) is 1970's euro horror...it just has that kind of vive to it.
There are hints of 'Silent hill' and other modern horrors too, but the 'euro' vibe is the icing for me.

And it is that incredible vive that has made this movie what it is...a genuine horror!

As I've said, difficult to achieve here, but Josh has definitely developed in his skills and paid close attention to Jase and A_N_D.

He WANTS to make great movies, and by god, with THE WATER AND THE WOODS, he's very quickly getting there.

Excellent VO cast, great editing and cam work, nice use of sound and visual fx and a fitting score.

Stunning work and dare I say the best horror on TMO?
I don't like to throw the word 'best' around too often here, but this is gonna take some beating.

Excellent.

Posted on June 2, 2008
- nukester

Woah woah...seriously.. you've gotta be kidding me, did I just see that? did I just hear that?? okay let me compose myself, bare with me.


'The Water and the Woods' is a classic horror film full of artistic visuals and accompanied by a terrific yet haunting score!!

From the very beginning, you set a grim,cold and dark tone that transcended on throughout the rest of the tale and I found myself locked in this world with all it's inhabitants!

The dialogue was very well written and you clerverly assembled an array of voice talent to deliver their characters and the overall story. All characters did a terrific job and I thoroughly enjoyed such performances from Perky,Killer,Pixie and co. They were all so dynamic and distinctive and fit their characters perfectly!. As for Sisch... phew... man... I knew she was talented but this takes the biscuit :D psycho or what!? Absolutley impressive performance!!!

I absolutley loved your cinematography and I thought that once again, like you have demonstrated with the Chronicles, that you have the eye for the angles and the slow pans to really amplify the mood and pace of this movie.

Scene choice is another aspect I have to highly commend you on. I thought you did a great job by being creative with the fusion of varied scenes. This provided unique and stand-out moments. From the suspensful office hiding sequence to the jump/catch escape to the agonising sprint through the thick snowy plains, you showed creativity in spades!!!!!

Sure there were the occasional bugs here and there but you will be hardpressed to find a director avoiding everything. With this creative tool, you have managed to put together and produce a fine film and all that who were involved should be very proud of this achievement!

You are certainly growing in stature on TMO and I have ALWAYS been a fan of your work, please continue what you do so best in providing memorable experiences and I hope one day I can get to work with you!!!!

until the next time....

Nuke Well in Echoes!!!!!!!

Posted on May 29, 2008
- jase180

Let me start by saying I am bias over this film. I have watched Josh work tirelessly on this film, and could not be prouder of him for it.

A classic horror film in every sense of the word. Some really inspired visuals, some clever tricks (blood in the water was one) and a throwback to those quirky Hammer Horror films I love so much.

This is a really fun and spooky film that has meat on the bones for the viewer!! Some nice subtle touches that make this stand out, from the lightning effects to the clocks ticking to the sounds of weeping..this is a nice package.

Yes it has some sound sync issues, but so what, its not that distracting and anyone who has worked with this game will know, its a drag to deal with.

Josh has delivered a quality well written, well shot film that is a horror film in the simplest of ways. No gore, no chainsaws, just creepy people doing creepy things in a creepy place.

And speaking of creepy, Sisch really delivers the heebie jeebies with her voice work. The cast delivers outstanding performances,and in particular, PerkyBunny and Killer_Actress as classic horror film damsels!Even the mic issues and all. And like every film, this one has its issues, but across the board "The play is the thing" and this story plays. I could not be prouder of you Josh for your follow through, your willingness to try new things and your ability to remain humble when clearly you have earned serious bragging rights.

Nice work Josh, very nice work!

Posted on May 29, 2008
- sisch

Loved it!

Without a doubt this is your best work so far, Josh - be very proud! You created a wonderful, spine chilling atmosphere - I want to mention your camera work especially, through change of perspective gave the scenes new and sinister meaning; I liked the extreme closeups, the unexpected angles, the flowing moves - this is truly inventive use of what the software offers us! The sound design and Del's music added even more depth to it, wonderful!

Set dressing is another big factor in this one - the Innkeepers office wowed me, as well as the birds which appeared again and again, making one wonder if they actually eavesdropped on conversations... and if they did - whom did they tell what they listened to? Great idea, which added another layer of mystery! The mods fitted very well, and the recurring lighting changes gave a real feeling of a thunderstorm brewing outside.

I liked the ending, too - yes, it is open, and leaves room for us to wonder who the Monster is... why she didn't hurt them.. her backstory - ample room to make a follow-up - or leave it, and let people draw their own conclusions (and I like that very much).

Voice acting was great all around - and let me tell you again how much fun I had with my role, it was a pleasure to do something so different!

Closing words? Josh, you're definitely a director we all need to watch - your movie making abilities grow with every film of yours I've watched, and I can't wait to see what you'll come up with next. Great, great work!

Posted on May 29, 2008
- K4Ownzall

You, my dear fellow, have just exceeded yourself to date! Clearly the best you have done with awesome camera and sound design to boot! Spooky doesn't even begin to describe the horror as we wait for the chilling climax! BRAVO!!!! Delirious did a remarkable job scoring the movie! The mods used really set the atmosphere. My fellow VA's embodied each character to a tee! I have to especially give kudos to Sisch for her startling performance and I have to give kudos to Killer_Actress who sustained the movie and whose performance was remarkable, stellar, and perfect. I'm tagging this one with a K4 Network Award. You earned it! ===K4===

Posted on May 28, 2008
 
Reviews
- nathjonesy

A Film That Will Have You Hooked From Start To Finish!

A great story line here, if there is a sequal to come then bring it on because this was extrodinary i haven't watched many videos about 20 i'd say and this has been my favourite one to date.

Well done - Bookmarked for sure!

Posted on September 19, 2008
- BeatyBeaks

I loved the beginning, but the whole thing was a masterpiece. The graphics were awesome. Man! Those voice overs are freakin great.You should try and go for a competition.
-Please rate my horror film, "Xavier".

Posted on August 20, 2008
- taylortaylortaylor

wow great movie, hey uh a long time ago i gave you 58,000 vcs.. can i have them back? srry i didnt mean to put in 1300 in a whole buncha times thnx ^^

Posted on August 14, 2008
- dude123456HasReturned

Teh Poptart Kid's Review Corner

Oh, my god! Brilliant film, Josh! Well done!

The story was the best, and the actors did a great job as well. Especially Sisch as the monster. Don't watch this at night folks, it'll freak you out! *Shudders*

There were a couple of flaws though, didn't really ruin the film. When Henry got knocked out, and his head was bleeding, I don't think he should have slept again. He could have gone into a coma. I'm not an expert in health, but wouldn't you agree? And, I noticed some sync errors, like out of place with the doors closing, and lips not moving, but overall, this was a masterpiece. Bravo!

5 stars all the way!

TPK

Posted on July 12, 2008
- Master007

Wow! An amazing performance by sisch, as well as outstanding performances from K4, josephkw, and Perkybunny. The plot was a bit thin and not really explained. I refer to the whole film when I say this, not just the end (more on the end later). The mods were used well and transported me to this very creepy bizare hotel. I loved the way the clock was ticking the minute we walked in the door, and it stay ticking for the whole scene. The use of sounds and music was brilliant. The biggest concern I had was the freecam. It seemed overused. Some shots were quite clever, while others felt rushed. It came across to me as little thought was put into about 75% of the freecam shots. Other than that though, this was a very creepy film. Not scary enough, but very bizare and extremely creepy.


:::::~~~~~SPOILER ALERT~~~~~~::::::


The ending: Personally, I loved it. It made absolutely no sense in context to the film because nothing was explained very well. I found myself wondering why it was they were kidnapping the girls. I figured it was to resurrect the creature, but then again, it seemed like they really didn't need the girls. While very annoying, I also kinda enjoyed that. It left me to fill in the blanks to your story. I could make the reasons for things happening different every time. I really liked the freecam when the monster was resurrected and wandering around. That was the highlight of the film.

To sum it all up, everything was great except for plot developement and the lack of thought put into most of the freecam shots.

5 stars from the Archaic Review Board (for effort and coolness)

Posted on July 10, 2008
- BiggsTrek

This film was good. Very good in fact. The voices were great, and the dialogue was well written. The camera work was both a mix of great/inspired and sometimes overdone (just a little heavy handed in my opinion).

I never really got any scares from this, though. A little creepy, sure. Just nothing major. And the ending just seemed... lacking. Could be me.

But it was well done nonetheless.

Posted on July 5, 2008
- hippieking

A exellent horror! A masterpeice!

I'm amazed at the VO talent! The water scene with the blood stood out the most compared to all the others!It made me feel like I'm watching a real movie! I actually got scared, alot! The camera work was epic, along with perfect use of mods, and overlays! The snow mod was very nice! This movie has won so, so many awards, it deserves it.
Josephkw really stood out in the VO cast even though they were all great. (Probobly 'cause he had the main role.)
THIS IS WHAT EVERY TMO HORROR SHOULD BE LIKE, BOW DOWN TO THE HORROR KING OF TMO!! THAT MEANS YOU!!!

Posted on July 2, 2008
- goofparade

I've been meaning to view this one for a bit, I did tonight and was not disapointed, in fact I was impressed by your chilling tale. Extrememly well written and executed, the sights, sounds and story kept me captivated.
Great acting, Sisch was incredible, the whole cast worked hard on this to get it to feel just right. Cinematography was excellent, I just loved your angles , pans .. the whole enchilada.

Nice Job Josh and the gang,

gp

Posted on June 30, 2008
- theycallmemisterbob

What a remarkable movie. I''ve never made a movie (though I have one in the can), becfause my job consumes me. If I could, I would explore classic film making, like you've done so expertly here. You've underscored yet again why the classic horror genre, is infinitely more frightening than the meat grinders of today. And your supportig cast and crew was stellar.

The sync problem bugged me - but you've apologized for it. No penalty.

Posted on June 21, 2008
- Armand

A wonderful, atmospheric and genuinely spooky film....which trips oh-so-close to the finish line.

There may be spoilers in my review, for which I apologise.

I made many notes as I watched this excellent film, and for so much of it I was convinced it was a true 5 star opus. But there are many niggling things in this work that detract from its perfection.

It has a marvellous opening and titles sequence, and I thought the choice to make this a period-piece was a good one. The film as a whole, within the horror genre, is formulaic but very effective. It is a classy addition to the TMO horror section.

The quality of the script was very good. I as a viewer focus on story and then look to see how the filmmaker reveals it, and in this case Josh shows a very methodical, skilled hand. The pacing is restrained, although there are some very minor moments of over-stated exposition which holds things back just a tad at various points. There is a fine line between the building of suspense and the drawn out - at some points Josh's patient hand toes that line dangerously (look at some of the bridging scenes/sequences between the dramatic moments - not all are necessary or needed and they tend to pad out the film). It's those critical moments in the cutting room where the director is holding onto a strip of film that the editor knows should be on the floor.

As a director of the horror genre Josh shows true flair and ability. He uses the third eye in some beautiful and breathtaking ways, evidenced by his lovely overhead dollies and the use of the enigmatic, symbolic dove (pigeon?). I don't like to comment on mod and prop use, but there are some very good design choices made here, and nothing seems out of place or gratuitous.

Very good ensemble cast here, and the standout, award winning performance by Sisch makes an indelible impression on the senses. There's a rating star here alone.

But all of this is for nought as the final reel plays a strange, disjointed conclusion that feels anticlimactic and a letdown. The final scenes make an abrupt departure from style and substance, almost as if the filmmaker has literally run out of steam. As audience, it feels to me like the question-mark-conclusion used here and there by some filmmakers breaks the "contract". Some do enjoy the "what was that?" experience of disjointed endings, but this is a very very tough gimmick to employ. The filmmaker should know the answer to the "what was that?" question, even if it wouldn't be apparent to an audience in a million years. In this way he/she maintains control of the emotions:- the conclusion of this film is like stepping off a cliff - Bam! The End. It is far too abrupt to make a satisfying question mark ending, there is no emotional latch to hang onto, no character that we can focus with or hold hands with as we step off the cliff together. Perhaps it bears a second viewing, and that may be Josh's intent, but for little marketing tricks like this (think about spending another $15 dollars to see a movie at the pictures because you didn't get the ending!) you're going to go straight to hell (insert "big smiley face" here). For me this was a major disappointment, as I was certainly quite amazed and delighted with 75% of the movie.

I'd made notes about how it would have been nice to hear more SFX like rain and cars, but after reading the production notes I can only sympathise with Josh

Posted on June 18, 2008
- mauro47

No comment

Posted on June 12, 2008
- mikeywoohoo

amaaaaaaaazing but i couldnt quite understand the ending

Posted on June 10, 2008
- derbyrams

OMG! Holy CRAP! That was some scary u know what! Talk about Sisch as the monster at the end! I really enjoyed this film!
By far, your best film and i must say all aspects of this movie were wonderful, the camera-work would have to be the best thing in my eyes, my favourite i mean, everything else was just as good [really good] but the camera-work stood out the most for me. Everyone acted perfectly, amazing direction and a great script! The editing was very, very solid through, nice job! The music was simply fantastic, nothing more to say on that. The mods added a nice touch to the movie, liked the originality of them as i don't believe i've seen some of them in all honesty. The story was top-notch, really well developed characters, no plot holes i can think of really. In the movie's almost 27 mins run-time, we get one hell of a movie! A great ride! There were a few things that were kinda bad as others have mentioned [like a few of the cheesy sound-effects, etc] but I really respect your courage and confidence for putting together a movie of this length, as i know those problems happened because of that, not your fault like. Regardless of the few little things that were a bit bad, the film was still excellent, they didn't kill the film or anything.

overall, a really good film and I highly recommend it!
I give this movie: My highly recommended horror award and two big thumbs up!
Excellent work Josh, can't wait to see what you do next, you've made some great movies, really anticipating your next project! WOOT!

Posted on June 10, 2008
- OD-Ork-Boy

So, a week or so after downloading this and watching it repeatidly, I've come to a conclusion...

You, Josh, are like some super-computer that keeps on building up on knowledge with each film. Every film you make is litterally better than the last, showing that unlike a lot of people you actually take in what your critics suggest and apply it to your films, which shows that you really do care about this. Now please, don't get any ideas about independance with your accumalating knowledge - it'd take forever to shut you down.

Now despite my qualms with what I felt about the ending (Or lack thereof, planned sequel or not), I really did love this film a lot. Special shout out to Boris Karloff - Uh, I mean, K4 - as the creepy innkeeper; the entire cast did wonderfully (I had no idea such a nice woman like Sisch could be so scary sounding =( ). The story was intriguing and kept me guessing until the end, and the camera-work and use of mods really added that nice smell of a fresh car to this film.

Now as JazzX said, I felt the birds were a little bit distracting and unneeded. They were a nice addition for the suspense vibe, but it felt over-done after a while. I think if you had just one or two brief shots of them and then just them cooing for the rest of the film, that would have had a better suspense vibe. I also felt the lighting was a litle odd looking - it needed to be quicker and have several cuts. Basically: Dark - then light - then dark again - then light X 4 times, all in about the period of two seconds (Using super-quick cuts in-between the scenes), to make it seem like realistic lightning. The lip-sync was also a little noticeable from time to time, but it wasn't that big of a thing.

Now little qualms aside, this was definitely your best film yet and you should be extremely proud of your work here. A great job all around which I have book-marked.

- Orky

Posted on June 9, 2008
- calvin28

wow!

Posted on June 9, 2008
- deeb

Wow! I thought it was going to end bad! I loved it! A very well done movie!

-deeb

Posted on June 8, 2008
- VandrendeOrn

A creepy movie, it started well like a classic horror movie with a lot of mystery. at some point in the movie it turned into a atmospheric masterpiece.
it was all very chaotic and hard to follow but at the same time captivating, well done!

Posted on June 8, 2008
- dionger

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiioooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Posted on June 8, 2008
- McCain

Very well done film, looking forward to a next part.

Posted on June 6, 2008
- rileyman

A very good mystery / horror, filled with atmosphere in both its visuals and audio. It's well-written (perhaps a few moments between Henry and Hope could have had a touch more 'mature' dialog), nicely structured, and has a good flow. The mod work and set dressing on display is top-class stuff -- I especially loved the snow in the forest. The custom score is sort of "base", exactly the style needed to build tension up to the end. Some decent opening credits to establish a solid production - though I wouldn't have minding some complementary closing credits.

The few bits of sound synch issues were minor, as were the handful of lines without lip-synch. The lip-synch problem is typically caused by using the "extras" in the scenes (which you can identify as being yellow mannequins in Advanced Movie Maker). To properly lip-synch, you should restrict yourself to using actors in red, blue, green, or silver (or by using camera angles that hide their mouths).

Scene selection is perhaps the one area that occasionally breaks down. It's extremely well done when some sort of challenging camera work is needed, but gets iffy during scenes that should be easier. Scenes with two characters talking or walking through the forest, for example. One character will be walking rather... "butch". ;) This could perhaps be fixed with the same sort of camera attention given to those more complex scenes; or by taking more of the film over to the Blue Screen.

So, with plenty of good stuff coming together for a very solid horror mystery, and primarily just a handful of scene selection issues, this is a low 5 stars for me. It will be interesting to see if there is more to this story...

Posted on June 4, 2008
- dlevym

yust fantastic

Posted on June 4, 2008
- TheFlyingDuDe-Films

A joy to watch!

It had it's few problems but in the end those are normal and wasn't disturbing.
Great set dressing, a joy to watch, and mostly great voice acting, really awesome sound effects, just at some points I wished there were even more, and great a score! A very nice watch, deserving of all it's badges!

great work! =)

Posted on June 4, 2008
- cecil_evans

This film had some obvious problems. Like nothing happens for the first 8 minutes, the camera angles made me dizzy, the end is pretty flat, and the hero and the innkeeper sound too much alike. :)
That said, I'm still giving it 5 stars, because it achieved its objective. You kept the mood tense from the beginning, and didn't let up on us. You made a very creepy and scary movie. And as it has been said, that's not easy in this medium.
The real star here is the sound. All the chills come from a skilled use of sound. The climax being blacked out drives this home sharply. Eeeekkk. Something bad happened, and it's all in YOUR imagination. Let your brain try and figure out what is there, just from what you hear.
Well done, and here's yet another award for you: The Cecil_Evans 'Way Better Than My Crap' Award. It is prized, my friend, and you should be proud of it.

Posted on June 3, 2008
- piotrtheman

A great horror movie! one of the best horror movie I ever seen here on TMO!
Good job!

Posted on June 3, 2008
- Rik_Vargard

Wow great movie! Great ambient and great VA's ! Didn't see the 26 minutes pass... excellent! :)

Posted on June 3, 2008
- 870

This film is simply brilliant m8. After seeing the teaser I really wanted you to do well with this as it looked awesome.

This is one of the most atmospheric, gripping horrors on TMO.

Well done m8.

Posted on June 3, 2008
- Cyber14

absolutly superb!

Posted on June 3, 2008
- MefuneAkira

Your best film Josh, by far.

I'm amazed at your genuinely unique film making. The third act of this film is the what makes this film stand out for me. The cinematography has a chaotic, yet controlled feel that actually achieves a visual stimulation that I can only describe as scary. THAT is completely unheard of with this medium. To actually creep a viewer out is revolutionary Josh and I applaud you for that unrepresented achievement in TMO history man.

Del's scores are heartfelt and melted into the mood perfectly.

The story itself was also a creepfest and more so, a true testament to classic horror.

Some amazing performances by Perkybunny, Pixiestix, Killer_actress, K4, Joseph and someone called Sisch, who now scares the sh!t out of me more than the clown in Poltergeist when I was 11.

There were some polishing issues, mixed with some unavoidable sound issues that did take me out of the film from time to time. The in-game sounds used, seemed to be a bit beneath the overall quality of the film. Some custom sounds would have match the rest of the high qualities of the film better.

Overall, a groundbreaking horror that has achieved where the rest have failed!

Congratulations Josh and well done man.

-Mefune Akira

Posted on June 2, 2008
- rogerSIMIAN

That's a phenomenal horror movie Userjosh. It took me a while to get around to watching, 'cause I've never watched a film here that's over ten minutes but this kept me gripped throughout. I never thought doves could be such a sinister presence in a film - haha. There were some scenes in the office with the rain and lightning outside the window and the dove watching everything that reminded me of Twin Peaks at its darkest. I could almost imagine a Waldo-like voice squeaking: "Laura, Laura!".

Posted on June 2, 2008
- Bezzer36

Without a doubt, Josh's finest hour!

This was a horror movie in every sense.
Not easily achieved with this medium as many other movie makers here on TMO have discovered for themselves.

This has some wonderful influences, but to me, the biggest (intentional or not) is 1970's euro horror...it just has that kind of vive to it.
There are hints of 'Silent hill' and other modern horrors too, but the 'euro' vibe is the icing for me.

And it is that incredible vive that has made this movie what it is...a genuine horror!

As I've said, difficult to achieve here, but Josh has definitely developed in his skills and paid close attention to Jase and A_N_D.

He WANTS to make great movies, and by god, with THE WATER AND THE WOODS, he's very quickly getting there.

Excellent VO cast, great editing and cam work, nice use of sound and visual fx and a fitting score.

Stunning work and dare I say the best horror on TMO?
I don't like to throw the word 'best' around too often here, but this is gonna take some beating.

Excellent.

Posted on June 2, 2008
- Howitzer

Terrifying - This movie chilled me to the bone!
One of the best horrors on TMO without a doubt, your use of obscure camera angles and spine tingling sound was incredibly effective and deffinately the best parts of this movie.
The performances given by your voice actors are truly amazing - testiments to their great talent!
You have chosen some excelent atmospheric music to accompany the visuals, wonderful choices there.
I can't find a fault with this movie, you had me glued to it with my jaw hanging.
Excelent work, Well Done!!

Howie.

Posted on June 1, 2008
- zatl

Very good - interesting plot, and a nice ending. The VOs sounded a little odd in places, but still very good overall, if a little long - though that's not really a bad thing.

TN TMO N Review

Posted on June 1, 2008
- Staree_Movies

Well I finally got around to watching this movie and I enjoyed it very much you have an amazing talent josh and you are just a splendid filmer. I was here when you had made COTR 1 and you have matured in your film making very much since then. However it my not have been that long you did and I am proud of you :)

-Staree

Posted on June 1, 2008
- Neroxc

An admirable piece of visual cinema, which exceeds all expectations, Water and the Woods is what you call a instant TMO classic, which mind-blowing cinematography and dynamic characterization. From the opening scenes you managed to set a dark tone, which i admire and which griped the audience from beginning to end.
The script was water- tight, and the voice acting was a particular joy to hear, everyone matched their character perfectly, the only thing which was missing from this piece was the lack of sound design, especially at the start , when the two main protagonists where travelling the car , but that does not take away from what is overall a masterpiece.
The music and score by Del was also a personal enjoyment to me, Josh didn�??t just make your typical run of the mill horror flick , he has made something which touches you and makes you care for the characters involved, and to think that you�??re a young filmmaker , i wait cannot wait until your next project. New filmmakers take note.
Nero

Posted on June 1, 2008
- JohnnyEx

Hey I loved this lil x-files style flick. I thought everything flowed very well. Congrats on winning EVERYTHING... Like it? thought so.

Posted on June 1, 2008
- TheMGMKid1

Oh my God! I am sitting here with goose bumps! This is not a movie to watch alone in the dark. The absolute best horror film I have ever seen on TMO!
Masterful chilling and utterly engrosing film. Brilliant use of every aspect of film making especially in the sound and music department. When the screen goes black and there is only sound I almost had to stop the film, it got to me that much. Just the sound in the dark lead my imagination to the most horrible visuals. Now that was brilliant!
All the actors were simply great, bar none! Oscars for everyone! The screenplay was a gem and shows the writer to be on his game. The direction and editing were flawless. And the camera work superb.
This is a TMO masterwork and has raised the bar for all who see it.

Posted on May 31, 2008
- dnr

Fantastic movie the atmosphere was perfect. The sound effects were perfect the music was perfect and the cast did a fantastic job.Loved some of the camera angles. Great job

Posted on May 31, 2008
- cheeseredsox

Great Movie! Wonderful acting audio and great story! Amazing, more movies should be this way!

Posted on May 31, 2008
- pixiestix

This was my second time working with userjosh9874 as a VO and I cant wait to do it again. It is so exciting to be involved in such a unique well thought out film. From the impressive visuals to the amazing music, and everything in between it was a one of a kind for sure. I loved the subtle nods to movies such as Psycho, I could go on and on but I don't want to give anything away. Can't wait to see what he comes up with next.

Posted on May 31, 2008
- Swiss1

No comment

Posted on May 31, 2008
- TENCHIMUYO

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i love it

Posted on May 31, 2008
- TFoster

This Is A Really Spooky Movie, The Water and the woods is a simply superb movie, with a simply brilliant voice cast and brilliant free cam and sets this is above all the great horrors of tmo, this deaserves it's acclaim and this is a truly remarkable milestone for UserJosh, as this is the movie which i will remember him by.

***** - 5 STARS

WELL DONE

TFOSTER
FOSTER FILMS

Posted on May 31, 2008
- jazzx

An atmospheric chiller.

Really good camerawork, plus the weather was used to maximum effect - from the thunderstorm to the snow (the first time I've seen snow done properly in a TMO film). The only piece of direction I had a problem with was the overuse of the birds - they looked great, but used too much the viewer is entitled to ask if they are significant to the plot - or was that a deliberate red heron! (hahahaha - sorry).

Excellent mods were used throughout the film, both in props and in sets.
Very good music all the way through as well, keeping the atmosphere creepy while never interfereing to a noticeable extent.

Sound effects were also excellent, especially near the end - I particularly liked the crunchy snow effect. There were two I didn't get on with - the first was a clock that kept ticking out of time and the second was a door which was closed gently but sounded like it had been slammed. Small beer - the thunder was very good and successfully sold the bad weather despite the lack of a rain sound effect.

Acting was very classy - all of the performers did well including a couple of females I've not heard before. The unearthly monster (that's not a spoiler - the monster is mentioned in the opening credits) was very well improvised by the actress.

Some technical bugs like lip synch failure were noticeable. An early conversation in the car being the worst for this. Very minor sound effects synchronisation problems in places also - but nothing that would really affect one's enjoyment of the movie. There was too much that was otherwise good about this film.

Overall then, I'd say this chiller is a very well made piece of work.

Definitely best viewed in Full Scream! (hahaha - it's the way I tell 'em)

Posted on May 31, 2008
- kidman6

I was speechless during the horror of this amazing film. I didnt really kno wat happened in the end cause it was just black 4 a half a minute, tho it did freak me out just a bit from the sounds. I've been wowed by this awesome horror movie, plus it looks surprisingly better in Full screen. This is the best horror movie I've seen since "Fall of the Dead" by butt_monkey & the "Rise of the Dead" trilogy by Chris62 (sequal was "Dead of Night" which was his first winning movie ever, and "Flesh Eaters Hell on Earth", plus the final part of it "Flesh eaters End time")
Please rate "The Blood of Revenge (Trailer)"
Thanx, Film on man, Film on

Posted on May 30, 2008
- oceanstudios

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Posted on May 30, 2008
- cruise1970

Very suspenseful/thriller film.... Wonderfully written script, outstanding VO performance, beautiful camera angles, perfect sound effects and music selection. Definitely one of your best films.... Wonderful Job... Bravo...

Posted on May 30, 2008
- Norriefpb

Firstly: really, really beautifully shot. Some very memorable camera angles and pans. You have a great eye Josh.
I liked the movie a lot; slow paced and creepy is incredibly difficult to do, and you pulled it off in style.
As for Sisch: yikes!

Posted on May 30, 2008
- Jenniza

Okay, ignoring any stupid glitches due to computer and game issues, which I'm sure you struggled with to no end and did a errific job overcoming to no end... we move on to the meat and potatooes of the movie. :) I tend to rip into horror movies fairly hard because they tend to be bad and cliche; however, this was extremely well acted even if I was not very scared. A note on that: it takes a heck of a lot to scare me... maybe grossing me out sometimes works althoughthat can backfire very badly as I can turn around just as easily and laugh at it. Psycological and suspense horrors tend to work on me too, which this had a few elements of. Anyway, since this did NOT rely on the typicaly junk that most horror films use that turn me off, that actually raised the score due to the excellent acting. Yeah, I don't go to a lot of horror films for that reason, you can imagine. :)

Posted on May 30, 2008
- Ellis07

That was purely amazing. It was just the style you created and you created it for a reason. I loved your storyline from the day I read the production thread and when I came to watch this, it was a shock of how well you told the story so clearly.

A fantastic well done to the voiceovers, they really felt their characters personalities and the protrayed them brilliantly. You've used your cam wonderfully and made those scenes seem perfessional. There was also a touch of strangeness that I dearly enjoyed, it made the movie seem more unregular and that's where most of the 'cult' movies are found in the industry.

Overall, you should be proud of what you've achieved and I know by looking at your thread that you've put loads of time and effort into 'The Water And The Woods' and I must say that this was well worth it becuase everything was so entertaining and I'm intrugued to know your next project will be. Fantastic, Five star.

Posted on May 30, 2008
- Active_Studios

Really fantastic, userjosh. I don't how you did it.

You must have done, I don't know how many months you did this.

Top notch. Film on. 5 stars.

A_S

Posted on May 30, 2008
- rysto

Impressive.
The story flowed well with a nice credit intro. I may of held back some of the starting credits until the end. Like the monster and ritualists roles. It would help keep a greater mystery of what was going to happen in the film.
The set dressing detail was superb which was complimented well with the camera work. First use of those animated birds I've seen done effectively, kept expecting them to do something... ;)
The audio bug wasn't a big issue just the choice of some SFX, the air siren in particular.
I loved the atmosphere and the film kept me wondering what was going to happen next. Looking forward to the sequel.

Posted on May 30, 2008
- makrim83

you got any pants? not to give much away but this reminded me alot of the psycho film but with cops and demons. which is a good combo if you ask me, i thought the direction, the mod use and the way you built the atmosphere was fracken ace m8 i sat through 26 mins and 47 secs of horrortastic fun!

Posted on May 29, 2008
- ubernewbie

This is what I call an adventure film. It takes you from A to B to C and then to D. Lovely dressed sets and locals and scenery, with some creepy music with some nice camera work. The biggest downer for me were some of the sound effects didn't fit. Door squeeks and doors closing didn't fit the materials present, which hollowed out the experience for me. Otherwise a brillant piece of work.

Posted on May 29, 2008
- RavensFan_09

An amazing and spooktastic horror movie! Stunning freecam made every scene seem fresh and unfamiliar to me. The set dressing was great, especially in the office. Every VA did a wonderful job, especially Killer_Actress and Sisch. Suspense and intruiging moments throughout that had me guessing. The end (not th every end though) was very well shot and had some great VO's. I liked how the detectives were surounded and how Sisch's character arose. Honestly not very scary, as I tend to not scare easily, but this film certainly had more than enough to show me that this was a great film worth 5 stars and even more! Keep at it! And make a sequel pretty please!

Posted on May 29, 2008
- sgporsche48

Very creepy horror. Performances were very nice (Sisch was especially creepy). Sound design was very good and added to the creepiness. If there was one thing that bothered me, it was the mouths not synching up sometimes. I believe this is more a fault of the game rather than a decision by the film maker, but it did still detract from the film, but only slightly. A very good horror here. One of the better ones on TMO.

Posted on May 29, 2008
- nukester

Woah woah...seriously.. you've gotta be kidding me, did I just see that? did I just hear that?? okay let me compose myself, bare with me.


'The Water and the Woods' is a classic horror film full of artistic visuals and accompanied by a terrific yet haunting score!!

From the very beginning, you set a grim,cold and dark tone that transcended on throughout the rest of the tale and I found myself locked in this world with all it's inhabitants!

The dialogue was very well written and you clerverly assembled an array of voice talent to deliver their characters and the overall story. All characters did a terrific job and I thoroughly enjoyed such performances from Perky,Killer,Pixie and co. They were all so dynamic and distinctive and fit their characters perfectly!. As for Sisch... phew... man... I knew she was talented but this takes the biscuit :D psycho or what!? Absolutley impressive performance!!!

I absolutley loved your cinematography and I thought that once again, like you have demonstrated with the Chronicles, that you have the eye for the angles and the slow pans to really amplify the mood and pace of this movie.

Scene choice is another aspect I have to highly commend you on. I thought you did a great job by being creative with the fusion of varied scenes. This provided unique and stand-out moments. From the suspensful office hiding sequence to the jump/catch escape to the agonising sprint through the thick snowy plains, you showed creativity in spades!!!!!

Sure there were the occasional bugs here and there but you will be hardpressed to find a director avoiding everything. With this creative tool, you have managed to put together and produce a fine film and all that who were involved should be very proud of this achievement!

You are certainly growing in stature on TMO and I have ALWAYS been a fan of your work, please continue what you do so best in providing memorable experiences and I hope one day I can get to work with you!!!!

until the next time....

Nuke Well in Echoes!!!!!!!

Posted on May 29, 2008
- jase180

Let me start by saying I am bias over this film. I have watched Josh work tirelessly on this film, and could not be prouder of him for it.

A classic horror film in every sense of the word. Some really inspired visuals, some clever tricks (blood in the water was one) and a throwback to those quirky Hammer Horror films I love so much.

This is a really fun and spooky film that has meat on the bones for the viewer!! Some nice subtle touches that make this stand out, from the lightning effects to the clocks ticking to the sounds of weeping..this is a nice package.

Yes it has some sound sync issues, but so what, its not that distracting and anyone who has worked with this game will know, its a drag to deal with.

Josh has delivered a quality well written, well shot film that is a horror film in the simplest of ways. No gore, no chainsaws, just creepy people doing creepy things in a creepy place.

And speaking of creepy, Sisch really delivers the heebie jeebies with her voice work. The cast delivers outstanding performances,and in particular, PerkyBunny and Killer_Actress as classic horror film damsels!Even the mic issues and all. And like every film, this one has its issues, but across the board "The play is the thing" and this story plays. I could not be prouder of you Josh for your follow through, your willingness to try new things and your ability to remain humble when clearly you have earned serious bragging rights.

Nice work Josh, very nice work!

Posted on May 29, 2008
- filipekholmstudios

The Best Movie in a long time by far. Fantastic directing, wonderfull writing and great performances. A Future classic.

Posted on May 29, 2008
- sisch

Loved it!

Without a doubt this is your best work so far, Josh - be very proud! You created a wonderful, spine chilling atmosphere - I want to mention your camera work especially, through change of perspective gave the scenes new and sinister meaning; I liked the extreme closeups, the unexpected angles, the flowing moves - this is truly inventive use of what the software offers us! The sound design and Del's music added even more depth to it, wonderful!

Set dressing is another big factor in this one - the Innkeepers office wowed me, as well as the birds which appeared again and again, making one wonder if they actually eavesdropped on conversations... and if they did - whom did they tell what they listened to? Great idea, which added another layer of mystery! The mods fitted very well, and the recurring lighting changes gave a real feeling of a thunderstorm brewing outside.

I liked the ending, too - yes, it is open, and leaves room for us to wonder who the Monster is... why she didn't hurt them.. her backstory - ample room to make a follow-up - or leave it, and let people draw their own conclusions (and I like that very much).

Voice acting was great all around - and let me tell you again how much fun I had with my role, it was a pleasure to do something so different!

Closing words? Josh, you're definitely a director we all need to watch - your movie making abilities grow with every film of yours I've watched, and I can't wait to see what you'll come up with next. Great, great work!

Posted on May 29, 2008
- ultrasigma

I really enjoyed this one and in summary I would have to say that it is a moody, atmospheric and a highly suspensful film that is a real achievement on TMO!

Well done!

U>S

Posted on May 29, 2008
- andy_inc

A fantastic suspenseful film that grabs you by the nuts and never lets go, from start to finish.

Really creative and clever stuff happening throughout the whole film, from the set design to the scene selections, and especially your unique use of the lighting changes when there was lightning.
The whole film was really fresh, unique and original =)

The story on the most part was interesting, keeping the viewer watching to see what happens, but the ending didn't really cut it for me. I know you made it in a sense where we made up what happened, but without sufficient evidence that was not given throughout the film, we don't really know much about the ritual, the housekeeper or anything, which i must say was a little bit of a let-down and felt more like "you make up the ending".

However overall, this was a fantastic effort from start to finish, where a lot of work and effort has gone into it and certainly has paid off, with a thoroughly entertaining and fresh horror flick, and certainly the best i've seen on TMO for a while. You're getting more creative and more clever with your films and its really a treat to the eyes... fantastic score and great work by the Voice Actors all-round...

Almost 6-star, but as I said, the ending didn't feel much like a "woah" ending, more like a, "Ok, now what" ending.
But still, really creepy stuff throughout the whole thing, and very entertaining for 26 minutes =)

Great stuff Josh!

Posted on May 29, 2008
- josephkw

I have to agree that this was one of your best works yet! I enjoyed the ominous atmosphere immensely--especially your use of sound. Great use of scenes and camera angles as well (the "typing" fingers nervously tapping around that knife on the table was brilliant!). The delirious music was also just splendid. Overall a great job!

Posted on May 29, 2008
- meosha12

EXCELLENT WORK i LOVED THE STORY LINE VERY VERY NICELY DONE I REALLY REALLY REALLY LOVED EVERY THING ABOUT YOUR FILM GREAT TRANSITIONS AND THE FREE CAM YOU REALLY USED
NICE WORK

MEOSHA12 :)

Posted on May 28, 2008
- killer_actress

Thoughs through my mind the moment the film was over:
1. ..................
2. Was that real or did I just dream that up...
3. ..................
4. Was I really in that?
5. ..................
6. That was probobly one of the best horror films ever.

I mean... Wow. I am so honored to have worked with you and everyone else on this cast. I can honestly say this was the most intense (and fun) films I have ever Voice Acted for. I have to give props to all of my fellow actors for the hard work. Everything seemed to flow well. I also have to give props for the music.

But MOST OF ALL!!! I have to give props to our amazing director, who has done amazing camera, editing and everything else. Wow.

Posted on May 28, 2008
- simpsdog

Very good. I was totally engrossed into this from the very beginning. It goes without saying but technically this was very well done. Camera, editing, music, sound effects and of course VO were all top notch. Very eerie feel to this and just a sense of helplessness.

I didn't feel the ending was that satisfying so I hope all the questions are answered in your next movie.

Overall this was extremely well done and congrats to you and everyone involved in this. (I also have to say I love the birds mods!)

Can you please review my new movie: Vengeance. Thanks.

Posted on May 28, 2008
- K4Ownzall

You, my dear fellow, have just exceeded yourself to date! Clearly the best you have done with awesome camera and sound design to boot! Spooky doesn't even begin to describe the horror as we wait for the chilling climax! BRAVO!!!! Delirious did a remarkable job scoring the movie! The mods used really set the atmosphere. My fellow VA's embodied each character to a tee! I have to especially give kudos to Sisch for her startling performance and I have to give kudos to Killer_Actress who sustained the movie and whose performance was remarkable, stellar, and perfect. I'm tagging this one with a K4 Network Award. You earned it! ===K4===

Posted on May 28, 2008
- bricksfilms

Well well well Josh, im impressed, and have been ever since I saw the original cut (hehe, me getty exclusive). You have really showed your talent here and have forged a film that wonderfully excedes the CotR series, which were also gems. You've wranggled up quite a nice cast and crew. THe vocal performances were great, a lot of female va's i've never seen before. Sisch was also phenominal, as was everyone else! The score was well done and I love the use of don giovanni in the intro. You did a great job capturing the mood and esence and really captured the spinn-tingling feel, so-to-speak, of the scenes. Nice use of scenes and the set dressing was nice, especially the outside of the hotel. My only criticism is the sound board. It was good when there, but that's the thing, it seemed to be lacking any sound at brief moments. All in all, a wonderful horror, that should deffidently be honnored with a high-res upload!

Posted on May 28, 2008
- pookashells

This movie proved sisch is actually crazy....

But seriously, she did a great job, and the movie was stellar. You should be proud of what you made here. :-)

Once again, don't die, I want/need to see more of your movies!

Posted on May 28, 2008
- Chris62

Great movie
Awesome plot.
Free-cam shot were the best.
Great cast.
One of the best horror movie on tmo.
Awesome job userjosh9874

Posted on May 28, 2008
- nexusinteract

Very strange, very very strange, this is indeed a piece of horror that hasn't been experienced before in a long time on TMO. However this is not perfect, and it has some problems I'd say. Although continuity is something questionable, there were too many unexplained occurences during the climax. What was the sacrifice thing about? What happened to the villians? And if they were killed, then why does the protagonist and his new friend survive? Why was the monster around at the end for? Unlike the mystique that was set in Shrine, this is a very open-ended story that closed on information it seems in a weird way. I like the mods. The hotel, the snow sets, and the music(though I barely paid attention to it watching the action going on). Just like in my review of CotR 2(the original version) this film is not in the same caliber of those films(CotR), but though that's not an important measuring stick, it's something I thought I'd share. Don't take all this as bad, I hate to be lying before being honest.

Posted on May 28, 2008
- lucindamc123

I don't have enough words! What can I say about such a wonderful work of art? That the filmmaker, even at such a young age is brilliant? That I don't know where these ideas come from? Not only is the cinematography beautiful, the dialogue is realistic, the actors fantastic, the story mysterious and intriguging, the musical cues right on. Do not miss this movie. But of course I know you won't miss it. You are in for a treat. I won't give away the ending, well I can't because it is all a mystery. This is a story you are going to think about for a long, long time.

Posted on May 28, 2008
- jakechief

Rated: R
Terror and Gore


Graded: A+


Joshua, Joshua, JOSHUA!! You really blew me away with this talented witty story! :) To be honest coming into watching this I thought you were going to do more of "Chronicles of The Rift" type of movie but you just brought it and said "Jake, this is not a 'Chronicles of the Rift' type of movie." I am whats the word......................... shocked! I am completely shocked at how you put this together as it's like a mini real life movie. You should feel proud. You should feel prouder than prouder. Proudest! ;) That was well done and I might show all my friends this marvellous masterpiece as even though all of your movies goes to top 25 this is going to go there easily. This is as good as Chronicles of The Rift and might even be a little better as I love the plot and storyline and everything.

Great Voice Actors brought this to life... but there was one thing I noticed which I didn't take a point out of. Lucky you. I saw that for half of the movie the characters mouths weren't moving and for the other half, they were! But that doesn't matter because voice over acting, plot and mods brought it back to an A+! Congratulations...



You just won the Chief Award!




What a movie.



Jake Coffey

Posted on May 28, 2008