Rock of the Marne
 
 
 
Review Count: 50
Average Rating: 4.58 stars
Genre: Action
Length: 16 minutes 9 seconds
 
Posted on: December 9, 2005
 
 
Film Description
Based on the defense of the 3rd Infantry Division during the Second Battle of the Marne during World War I.

First film I've uploaded onto the website. Some editing hiccups and scene mistakes, I admit.

NOTE: A lot of this is filmed at night. I would suggest downloading this and watching it seperate from the website to see it better - a lot of people have a problem with this, it's what I usually do with films shot in dark lighting.

Respective thread for the movie:
http://allboards.lionhead.com/showthread.php?t=117033
 
Featured Reviews
- Apasas

After reading that you also had a WWI film, I had to see it.

Considering it was 16 minutes long I didn't once feel that the film dragged, perhaps because I am interested in the material. The film was very much shown from the point of view of the Generals on both side. This effectively allowed you show the aims and objectives of each side, and allowed them to tell the viewer the result of the battle. On the whole, this worked very well.

The story was told very well. The atmosphere potrayed more of a heroic defense rather than that of a sentimental tradegy, and that came across well.

There a couple of areas where things could be improved. There was a lack of atmosphere in parts where there was little or no sound. In these scenes you need something such as background noise, music and or (day I say it) VO, although not using VO did not affect how I rated this movie. (Given the number of characters involved, VO would be difficult to do in this case).

Some of the action scenes could have been cut a little better. Except the ending where the editing was absolutley excellent and was very exciting. Also, I didn't really feel get the sense that the American troops were under any pressure during the battle. This could have been expressed breaking the dialogue with ST dialogue during the battle to show what a desperate situation the american defenders were in at the time.

On the whole this is a really good effort and I learned a few things I didn't know before from your review and the film. (Thanks for the tip on the German helmets. That was an error on my part, but not a terrible one). With your technical ability and your knowledge and enthusiams for the subject, I think you will make some excellent film from this period in the future. I am looking formward to seeing them.

Posted on January 15, 2006
- HairRaiser71

Admittedly, I'm not much of a history buff and while my wife's uncle would probably enjoy it more than me (he's really into military history), I'll only say that the editing was very well done and while long, things moved along well. The only reason I'm not going 5 stars relates to a few of the post-production glitches and that I had a little trouble mentally sticking around for 16 minutes. For a first upload, you've done an excellent job!

Posted on December 15, 2005
- kuroken

Excellent - this is probably the best use of the war/battle animations and scenes that I've seen. The lack of music until close to the end really enhance it, and the Third ID sstand in 2nd Marne is epic stuff. Bravo.

Posted on December 14, 2005
- McCain

I served most of my military career in the 3rd ID, and learned a lot about it's history, and I have to say this film touches on that history perfectly. I even found myself humming the Dog Face Soldier song while watching it.

The 3rd ID will always hold a special spot in my heart, I made a lot of good friends in the 3rd ID, and lost some as well when we went to war 1990. I was very proud to serve in the 3rd ID, thank you for making such great film dedicated to honoring the men, and women who served so proudly over the years in the 3rd ID.

Rock of the Marne!

Posted on December 11, 2005
- kaipan

From the movie I can see you have studied well from the history, must done a good researched also. I specially love the last part of editing, it does feel the heats of the war, Execellent!

Posted on December 11, 2005
- Glynner

To be honest I was just gonna walk away without giving any more reviews because I'm on a bit of a downer on the system at the mo - but... I've been waiting for this so here goes.
Loads of people are gonna miss the little bits of detail you put in. There were a generous amount of custom-made actors (anybody who has seen your comments on the forums would do well to take a closer look at the director) in here and from the authenticity of the props it was clear this has been a labout of love.
Similarly editing was done with clever flashes and attention to detail. The single brief clip of the beach - and cut back to forest - set the tone for the intial assault by the sea. The action set pieces were also well done - varied use of the engine and general inventiveness all round. Ok - it is more accomplished than the vast majority of films uploaded.
But I'm giving it a four.
It was sixteen minutes in length and I can honestly say it didn't engage me on an emotional level once. I didn't care what happened to the soldiers - almost as if they were plastic toys. It sometimes felt like an expertly constructed history lesson. Maybe it was - and maybe I missed the point.
I hope the number of reviews for this film increase drastically - or you might as well make a matrix-cum-film-noir spoof as your next film.
4 stars for a film somebody else will rightly award 5.

Posted on December 10, 2005
 
Reviews
- Tek-To

It remembered me of what I've studied back at high school, and the movie realism structed me deeply (for the better). Even though there weren't any V.Os, the subtitles were well paced, and its the first time I actually enjoyed a war-like action movie :)

Posted on June 30, 2006
- Wizairde

Not to be lame, but I'm pressed on time -- so I admit to not seeing it all, I watched the first couple of minutes and it was great. But wanted to rate it after your comedy short gave me a good laugh.

Posted on January 17, 2006
- DirectorBumbleButt

Hmm...so somehow my rating vanished. So I'll rate again! But this time you get a one star...sorry man. hehehehehe

No, this was an excellent film! For 16min worth, it really was worth watching! I liked the storyline and the good use of sets. It's nice that you even dressed the sets too! Also, you must have a lot of patience to do a 16min film. Great job!

Posted on January 17, 2006
- CowBear

Well, after five tries, I was finally able to download your film and I must say, it was a clinic in the making of battle scenes. Excellent editing and use of in-game effects. The night shots, in particular, shined as the explosions and gunfire helped to provide the appropriate lighting and atmosphere. Only drawbacks I noticed were that the first part of the film could've used some music to aid the pacing and a sub-plot (say a buddy-subplot) might have helped fill in the "human element" others might find engaging. I've been giving out lots of five stars lately, but that's due to concentrating on well-respected studios such as yours. Great job, and let's see more historical epics.

Posted on January 16, 2006
- Apasas

After reading that you also had a WWI film, I had to see it.

Considering it was 16 minutes long I didn't once feel that the film dragged, perhaps because I am interested in the material. The film was very much shown from the point of view of the Generals on both side. This effectively allowed you show the aims and objectives of each side, and allowed them to tell the viewer the result of the battle. On the whole, this worked very well.

The story was told very well. The atmosphere potrayed more of a heroic defense rather than that of a sentimental tradegy, and that came across well.

There a couple of areas where things could be improved. There was a lack of atmosphere in parts where there was little or no sound. In these scenes you need something such as background noise, music and or (day I say it) VO, although not using VO did not affect how I rated this movie. (Given the number of characters involved, VO would be difficult to do in this case).

Some of the action scenes could have been cut a little better. Except the ending where the editing was absolutley excellent and was very exciting. Also, I didn't really feel get the sense that the American troops were under any pressure during the battle. This could have been expressed breaking the dialogue with ST dialogue during the battle to show what a desperate situation the american defenders were in at the time.

On the whole this is a really good effort and I learned a few things I didn't know before from your review and the film. (Thanks for the tip on the German helmets. That was an error on my part, but not a terrible one). With your technical ability and your knowledge and enthusiams for the subject, I think you will make some excellent film from this period in the future. I am looking formward to seeing them.

Posted on January 15, 2006
- erinnicole93

An epic war masterpiece. I felt like I was watching The Bridge on the River Kwai. Maybe some of the scenes could have been edited down. But this is just a superlative effort.

Posted on January 13, 2006
- static813

Very well done! i enjoyed it immensly and while i am a huge fan of world war 2 flicks a good ww1 story doesn't escape me... disappointed in a few glitches here and there but nice film over all. makes me wish for a tench set, and more ambience of war to choose from. great effort!

Posted on January 12, 2006
- N8Wolf

Good historic Story, Well edited! Great Job!

Posted on January 12, 2006
- nasum84

good historical research, the editing was smooth, it kept me watching although it was about 16 minutes long

Posted on January 11, 2006
- Crazeyal

I liked the film. You already admitted the hiccups, so we won't mention them. I know it's your first peice.. but 16 min??? Next time AT LEAST a two parter. You could also use a bit more movement with the characters. The software is okay as far as scenes go, but with a few quick cuts and splices, you can put a good deal more emphasis on words or meanings. Keep up the good work.

Posted on January 11, 2006
- Tamptak

The storyline of your movie impressed me very much and obviously you spare no effort to create this fantastic movie! Great work! Please excuse my bad english, I can better understand as I can write ;)

Posted on January 11, 2006
- mriamron

Alittle long.

Posted on January 10, 2006
- tanguygetz

A well filmed great movie shot like a documentary (thus with sobriety) about an aspect of the WW1 that has been rarely treated,awesome work !

Posted on January 9, 2006
- Prinzess

Here is what I appreciate of your movie :)
You have gone to great lengths to depict a historical timeline event. It is not easy with some of the scene choices given.
I commend you for you efforts and I look forward to seeing what other Genres or styles you have hidden in there :)

Posted on January 9, 2006
- RideTheBomb

A great effort, but lacking emotion until the music finally showed up.

Posted on January 8, 2006
- Ericsson

Ok, but too long.

Posted on January 8, 2006
- KMalmgren

Great editinng. Good facts.

However it was mentioned earlier: the film does not evoke any kind of an emotional response. If there had been a character to care about then it would have made the 16 mins enjoyable. However without the characters or any kind of music it was really hard to keep focus.

This was not a bad movie, just missing a few elements. But still a very good movie that has inspired me to play with a war movie in the near future.

Posted on January 8, 2006
- Dh_Hydra

I really enjoyed this peiece of work! I am not the biggest history man around.. but I do like it. And I love to watch war movies especially the good ones. This one seems like it belongs in the ranks with war movies like saving private ryan and patton. While you didn't have the speacil effects and the material, you pulled it off with just the movies. Nice first submisson by the war. Heh and sorry for the headache.

Posted on January 5, 2006
- cathreese

This is a masterful effort, you obviously know the history quite well. As a film, however, I must say it was a bit long and scattered. It would work better with a tighter focus on Woolridge and his company, rather than taking us all over the battle. Don't worry about it being dark -- I liked the effect of only seeing the flashes of fire, it really shows the chaos of war. Also, I don't know if you put in the birdsong between the battle scenes or if it was just there, but there was something comforting yet eerie about hearing nature go on.

Posted on January 2, 2006
- covas12d

a bit long, you can tell a lot of work went into this film.

Posted on December 18, 2005
- chiprocks1

Damn good stuff!!

Posted on December 18, 2005
- Yogurt_King

Excellent editing, particularly on the final battle. A bit long, but necessarily so, for telling such a tale. It could have used a bit more music here and there to keep the pace flowing. Great effort in telling a bit of history. I can tell you put a lot of work into this one.

Posted on December 18, 2005
- Tilarium

Absolulty amazing! Very clever use of editing and amazing scene flow. The battle at the end was the best part, definitally keep up the good work, I hope to see more movies by you in the future!

Posted on December 18, 2005
- Buccura

Wow, one of the best war movies I have seen here. I love how you didn't use music until the last parts of it. The combat sequences were amazingly well edited and did not bore me at all and thus kept me watching the whole way through. The transistions between the American and German sides were well done and placed at the right moments to set a good pacing to the story. Overall well done.

Posted on December 18, 2005
- Humdogma

Great film; subtitles too long in places, duration was a little too long as well.

Posted on December 17, 2005
- Slayter

That was truly incredible. I'm not a history buff, but if there were more pieces like this I would be a little more knowledgeable. :-) I'm withholding the fifth star simply because a little ambient or mood music would have been nice during some of the beginning and middle scenes. Not for a lack of voice over or as someone said the ending was predictable ( that was very funny by the way, considering it is based upon actual events ). If this was a first attempt I can't wait to see future endeavors.

Posted on December 17, 2005
- Suladead

I have never really been into history. Though this movie made me interested and really care for the characters. The story progressed nicely. It was certainly long, but I never hold that as a bad thing. Movies were meant to be long. I look to the future...

Posted on December 17, 2005
- TheMGMKid1

Not only epic in length but epic in scope, The Rock of the Marne is the best war film to date here at The Movies. There is evidence of tremendous research that has paid off in this film. The choice of scenes and editing is superb and lifted this film to a lofty level of real cinematic art. This is a masterpiece of filmmaking and should be studied by those who want to know how to make a great war picture. The lack of music until the final battle was a brilliant stroke and contributed to a thrilling climax to the picture. Well done Angelo you are a brilliant filmmaker and an inspiration to the rest of us.

Posted on December 17, 2005
- JMMartin

A very well thought of war movie.Brilliant movie

Posted on December 16, 2005
- rlgoodrich

This is one of the best movies I've seen on here. At first I dreaded thinking 16 minutes, but this was very entertaining. Couldn't hardly believe 16 minutes had passed. I think I will download this one so I can watch it in better quality. I personally think people to too much importance on VO for a movie to be considered worthy of 5 stars. Entertainment value is what I look at for my 5 stars.

Posted on December 16, 2005
- NoBigThing

Very long and still good! The longest I made was 7 minutes and it was damn hard to edit... I don't even want to imagine what a pain this must have been!
Good job.

Posted on December 16, 2005
- ZombieEye

1st Compliment...
It didn't seem like 16 minutes! Great Narrative!
2nd Compliment...
I barely noticed the editing. Which is how it's supposed to be.
3rd Compliment...
Great use of music and lack thereof. The total silence helped make the battle truly intense once it really got going.

Fantastic! How this is not #1, I don't know.

Posted on December 16, 2005
- dh216832

16 minutes of a war story. You've got me 'cause I simply like the drama involved there. Subtitles were a little long in places, but your battle scenes were excellent. I really don't know much about WWI (more of a WWII fan) so I actually learned something! The Rock of the Marne division in WWII, now I know where and why it got it's name. Thanks!

Posted on December 16, 2005
- HairRaiser71

Admittedly, I'm not much of a history buff and while my wife's uncle would probably enjoy it more than me (he's really into military history), I'll only say that the editing was very well done and while long, things moved along well. The only reason I'm not going 5 stars relates to a few of the post-production glitches and that I had a little trouble mentally sticking around for 16 minutes. For a first upload, you've done an excellent job!

Posted on December 15, 2005
- Blackstorm

Wow,that's the best war movie i saw,so much work,all the scenes cut mixed togheter,all the details,like the bushes you add,this is a master piece,i can't even imagine the time you spent on this,and all i can think of is WOW,GREAT UNBELIEVABLE JOB!!! I will put your movie in my movie bookmark.

Congratulation man,sincerely i think your movie deserve to be in the top 10,WOW!

Blackstorm

Posted on December 15, 2005
- Dylen

Excellent!!

Need I say more?

Posted on December 15, 2005
- AndypS

Photography/Editing 4/5
Sounds/Voice/Subs 3/5
Storyline 5/5
This film really lacked in the voice over to keep you intrested for the whole 16mins, the facts the actors mumbles are also removed makes it even harder to stay intrested as there was no real atmospheric music in parts, other parts how ever was excelent.
Overall 4/5

Posted on December 15, 2005
- KaleeTomey

This movie was one of the best I have seen! I will even say it was better than King Kong. It was a bit long but you can tell you put a lot of hard work into it and spent a lot of time on detail. Well deserving of 5 stars but like many other reviewers I reserve the 5th star for voice over! As far as your movie making abilities I give you personally 10 stars!

Posted on December 15, 2005
- justin_in_bangor

I don't care what anyone else says. I have reviewed a lot of long movies, but the storytelling here was done in a manner that kept my attention. That is hard to do with a movie of the length without it being compelling. I liked the characterdevelopment and the editting. Someof it seemed to drag without the music in the background, but it was not an overwhelming drawback

Posted on December 15, 2005
- kuroken

Excellent - this is probably the best use of the war/battle animations and scenes that I've seen. The lack of music until close to the end really enhance it, and the Third ID sstand in 2nd Marne is epic stuff. Bravo.

Posted on December 14, 2005
- MajorMatt2006

iam going to be honest i think it was very well constructed but there were some bits i didnt like. this film has been made before so i was all fairly obvious what was going to happen and there was not enoght dioloque. done before but attention to detail and props was out-standing. con grats!

Posted on December 14, 2005
- JackSparrow2005pirate

Thanks for the review of my movie. I didn't realize that the darn subtitles would be so small. On to your movie. I'm a history, and a military buff, so I love stuff like this. Most people know nothing of this important battle that was the turning point of WWI. This is more of a documentary war movie, in the style of some of those old war flicks of years past. Great Job.

Posted on December 14, 2005
- Mogwa

One of the better, if not the best, films I've seen hers.

Posted on December 12, 2005
- McCain

I served most of my military career in the 3rd ID, and learned a lot about it's history, and I have to say this film touches on that history perfectly. I even found myself humming the Dog Face Soldier song while watching it.

The 3rd ID will always hold a special spot in my heart, I made a lot of good friends in the 3rd ID, and lost some as well when we went to war 1990. I was very proud to serve in the 3rd ID, thank you for making such great film dedicated to honoring the men, and women who served so proudly over the years in the 3rd ID.

Rock of the Marne!

Posted on December 11, 2005
- kaipan

From the movie I can see you have studied well from the history, must done a good researched also. I specially love the last part of editing, it does feel the heats of the war, Execellent!

Posted on December 11, 2005
- YONDERBOY

Incredible. Certainly not a *drama* persey. Congratufrigginlations on having so many fight-scenes done so well and not feel repetitive in the slightest! A few subtitle/grammar/spelling errors but guess what... I don't care!
Great stuff!

Posted on December 10, 2005
- SilkyBlue

This is a film that should be downloaded to watch, as you said. The dark scenes (a fault of TMO, not you) are very hard to see.

Good editing, innovative use of sets, set dressing and props. Some scenes ran a bit long; I realize you let them run to keep the dialogue on long enough to read it.

I really enjoyed this as I like good, historically accurate books - and films. Even the horse didn't throw me off. If you hadn't mentioned it, I probably wouldn't have noticed. They did use horses in WWI, though not Western saddles. (I think they used the McClellan saddle, but I may be wrong.)

On a 10 star system, I'd give this a 9. We don't have a 10 star system, so it gets a five from me.

I am looking forward to your next endeavor!

Posted on December 10, 2005
- Glynner

To be honest I was just gonna walk away without giving any more reviews because I'm on a bit of a downer on the system at the mo - but... I've been waiting for this so here goes.
Loads of people are gonna miss the little bits of detail you put in. There were a generous amount of custom-made actors (anybody who has seen your comments on the forums would do well to take a closer look at the director) in here and from the authenticity of the props it was clear this has been a labout of love.
Similarly editing was done with clever flashes and attention to detail. The single brief clip of the beach - and cut back to forest - set the tone for the intial assault by the sea. The action set pieces were also well done - varied use of the engine and general inventiveness all round. Ok - it is more accomplished than the vast majority of films uploaded.
But I'm giving it a four.
It was sixteen minutes in length and I can honestly say it didn't engage me on an emotional level once. I didn't care what happened to the soldiers - almost as if they were plastic toys. It sometimes felt like an expertly constructed history lesson. Maybe it was - and maybe I missed the point.
I hope the number of reviews for this film increase drastically - or you might as well make a matrix-cum-film-noir spoof as your next film.
4 stars for a film somebody else will rightly award 5.

Posted on December 10, 2005
- Jurge

Amazing!

Posted on December 9, 2005
- Movieman330

beggining was great, the conversations dragged a bit though

Rate mine too at
http://movies.lionhead.com/movie/19472

Posted on December 9, 2005